Udi Dahan: Distributed Computing - Episode 192

Azure DevOps Podcast

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Date: Mon, 09 May 2022 08:00:00 +0000

<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Udi Dahan is one of the world’s foremost experts on Service-Oriented Architecture and Domain-Driven Design and is also the creator of NServiceBus; the most popular service bus for .NET. Udi joined us back on</span> <a href="http://azuredevopspodcast.clear-measure.com/udi-dahan-on-microservices"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Episode 32</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">to discuss Microservices.</span></p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Topics of Discussion:</strong></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[2:47] Udi talks about some of the changes, and similarities, in distributed computing in the last five years as well as generational differences to approach learning.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[11:27] Udi defines what a service mesh is and when it’s applicable.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[14:46] Udi discusses his concerns regarding using a service mesh and common problems encountered.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[22:28] With most of the new generation of programmers using Web service-based programming, what does Udi think they need to hear?</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[27:50] Why Udi thinks the larger companies and vendors need to take more responsibility and “do more good.”</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[32:48] Udi shares more on NServiceBus’s offerings and functionality and why developers need to learn more.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[36:36] Are there any pieces of NServiceBus that will need more than just a .NET standard support?</span></p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Mentioned in this Episode:</strong></p> <p><a href="http://architecttips.clearmeasure.com/"><em><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Architect Tips</span></em></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">— New video podcast!</span></p> <p><a href="https://azure.microsoft.com/en-ca/services/devops/?&amp;OCID=AID736756_SEM_7eul5uID"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Azure DevOps</span></a></p> <p><a href="https://www.clear-measure.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Clear Measure</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">(Sponsor)</span></p> <p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/NET-DevOps-Azure-Developers-Architecture/dp/1484253426"> <em><span style="font-weight: 400;">.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way,</span></em> <span style="font-weight: 400;">by Jeffrey Palermo</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">— Available on Amazon!</span></p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-ROXy08zc-qTA0-3GAQDLw"><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Jeffrey Palermo’s YouTube</span></a></p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/jeffreypalermo?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">—</span> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Follow to stay informed about future events!</span></p> <p><a href="https://particular.net/nservicebus"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Particular Software — NServiceBus</span></a></p> <p><a href="http://azuredevopspodcast.clear-measure.com/udi-dahan-on-microservices"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Episode 32 — Microservices</span></a></p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Want to Learn More?</strong></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Visit</span> <a href="http://azuredevopspodcast.clear-measure.com/"><em><span style="font-weight: 400;">AzureDevOps.Show</span></em></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">for show notes and additional episodes.</span></p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Quotes:</strong></p> <ul> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">“Every generation of programmers needs to relearn kind of the same points over again.” — Udi [3:51]</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">“We’re still essentially coming up with new generations of technologies that are addressing the same category of problems.” — Udi [6:16]</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">“The problem is not rooted in what do they need to hear so much as</span> <em><span style="font-weight: 400;">who</span></em> <span style="font-weight: 400;">do they need to hear it from.”— Udi [23:51]</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">“If you know a thing, if you can help, then you should.” — Udi [29:47]</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">“NServiceBus essentially takes all of the problems that you never want to have, and the challenges that most people don’t know that they’re going to have so they don’t appreciate it until they have it, and essentially prevents them from happening.”— Udi [34:29]</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">“That ounce of prevention is equivalent to a pound of cure.” — Udi [34:46]</span></li> </ul> <p> </p> <p><strong>Udi:</strong> <a href="https://udidahan.com/"><strong>Website</strong></a> <strong>|</strong> <a href="https://twitter.com/udidahan"><strong>Twitter</strong></a></p>