Heather Downing: Retooling for the Future - Episode 190

Azure DevOps Podcast

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Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 08:00:00 +0000

<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Heather is a passionate coder and entrepreneur. She has experience working with</span> <em><span style="font-weight: 400;">Fortune</span></em> <span style="font-weight: 400;">500 companies building enterprise-level voice, mobile, and C#/.Net applications. She focuses on external thought leadership, encouraging fellow programmers to present on topics outside of the office and in the community. She is also an international technical speaker, recently speaking at NDC, an early adopter of technology, and a conference organizer at KCDC, the Kansas City Developers Conference.</span></p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Topics of Discussion:</strong></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[3:00] Heather talks about her deep dive into her local community to figure out how we learn and how different generations are discovering content.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[3:12] We now have a multigenerational community and it’s important to consider that there are now four different groups of people that learn completely differently.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[5:40] With so many people from different cultures and backgrounds, Heather thinks that if we’re not accommodating, we’re not going to be able to replace ourselves.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[8:23] Heather explains the importance of every developer finding their favorite documentation.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[12:29] The great equalizer is that we all want to solve problems. Heather talks about the importance of letting beginners ask the right questions, and giving them the space to problem solve.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[14:36] Heather describes the reality she sees from university programs and boot camps, along with the importance of having basic people skills.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[18:27] Heather describes how time boxing and The Pomodoro Technique can provide a structure for productivity and can help you accomplish more without overwhelm.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[21:36] The book</span> <em><span style="font-weight: 400;">Atomic Habits</span></em> <span style="font-weight: 400;">was a powerful read for Heather and she wishes she had read it before! One of the takeaways is that anything that is broken down seems more digestible. When you focus on just getting one percent better at something every day, your goals start to get more manageable.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[24:24] Resiliency is key in software.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[24:49] Sometimes what you’re trying to get better at is not software coding at all, but communication and really listening.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[24:50] Heather gives her take on if you need to have a University degree to go into software, and where she thinks the engineering field will end up.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">[34:42] Heather’s advice for young developers looking at older work — keep in mind that it’s possible that they did the best they could have at the time. Plus, one day that will be you, so try to have some grace and understanding.</span></p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Mentioned in this Episode:</strong></p> <p><a href="http://architecttips.clearmeasure.com/"><em><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Architect Tips</span></em></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">— New video podcast!</span></p> <p><a href="https://azure.microsoft.com/en-ca/services/devops/?&amp;OCID=AID736756_SEM_7eul5uID"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Azure DevOps</span></a></p> <p><a href="https://www.clear-measure.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Clear Measure</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">(Sponsor)</span></p> <p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/NET-DevOps-Azure-Developers-Architecture/dp/1484253426"> <em><span style="font-weight: 400;">.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way,</span></em> <span style="font-weight: 400;">by Jeffrey Palermo</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">— Available on Amazon!</span></p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-ROXy08zc-qTA0-3GAQDLw"><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Jeffrey Palermo’s YouTube</span></a></p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/jeffreypalermo?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter</span></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">—</span> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Follow to stay informed about future events!</span></p> <p><a href="https://www.charismaoncommand.com/c-university/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Charisma University</span></a></p> <p><a href="https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits"><em><span style="font-weight: 400;">Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones</span></em></a></p> <p><a href="https://kevlinhenney.medium.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Kevlin Henney</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, Medium</span></p> <p><a href="https://ndclondon.com/speakers/kevlin-henney"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Kevlin Henney</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, NDC London</span></p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Want to Learn More?</strong></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Visit</span> <a href="http://azuredevopspodcast.clear-measure.com/"><em><span style="font-weight: 400;">AzureDevOps.Show</span></em></a> <span style="font-weight: 400;">for show notes and additional episodes.</span></p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Quotes:</strong></p> <ul> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">“You have to be able to think about how you want to solve this problem, but also communicate it and if you can’t do that, it will limit you. You can be amazing, but if nobody knows what you’re talking about, because you never mention it or you never speak up, that’s going to limit you.”</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">“With so many people from different cultures and backgrounds, I think if we are not accommodating, we’re not going to be able to replace ourselves.” — Heather [5:15]</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">“I feel like every developer needs to just sit down and find their favorite documentation that they’ve learned from and see if they can at least mimic that.” — Heather [8:23]</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">“If you’re not enjoying something, maybe you can suggest a different way instead of just quitting.” — Heather [12:04]</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">“You aren’t guaranteed to succeed. But you are guaranteed to struggle, struggle well.” — Heather [23:24]</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">“Maybe it really just takes a slight adjustment or retooling instead of blowing it away and building something completely from scratch again.” — Heather [34:00]</span></li> </ul> <p> </p> <p><strong>Heather:</strong> <a href="https://www.quorralyne.com/"><strong>Website</strong></a> <strong>|</strong> <a href="https://twitter.com/quorralyne"><strong>Twitter</strong></a></p> <p> </p>