Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 21:00:00 -0400
<div class="wp-block-jetpack-markdown"><h2>Summary</h2> <p>Every software project is subject to a series of decisions and tradeoffs. One of the first decisions to make is which programming language to use. For companies where their product is software, this is a decision that can have significant impact on their overall success. In this episode Sean Knapp discusses the languages that his team at Ascend use for building a service that powers complex and business critical data workflows. He also explains his motivation to standardize on Python for all layers of their system to improve developer productivity.</p> <h2>Announcements</h2> <ul> <li>Hello and welcome to Podcast.__init__, the podcast about Python’s role in data and science.</li> <li>When you’re ready to launch your next app or want to try a project you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so take a look at our friends over at Linode. 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And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show!</li> <li>Your host as usual is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Sean Knapp about his motivations and experiences standardizing on Python for development at Ascend</li> </ul> <h2>Interview</h2> <ul> <li>Introductions</li> <li>How did you get introduced to Python?</li> <li>Can you describe what Ascend is and the story behind it?</li> <li>How many engineers work at Ascend? <ul> <li>What are their different areas of focus?</li> </ul> </li> <li>What are your policies for selecting which technologies (e.g. languages, frameworks, dev tooling, deployment, etc.) are supported at Ascend? <ul> <li>What does it mean for a technology to be supported?</li> </ul> </li> <li>You recently started standardizing on Python as the default language for development. How has Python been used up to now? <ul> <li>What other languages are in common use at Ascend?</li> <li>What are some of the challenges/difficulties that motivated you to establish this policy?</li> </ul> </li> <li>What are some of the tradeoffs that you have seen in the adoption of Python in place of your other adopted languages? <ul> <li>How are you managing ongoing maintenance of projects/products that are not written in Python?</li> </ul> </li> <li>What are some of the potential pitfalls/risks that you are guarding against in your investment in Python?</li> <li>What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Python used where it was previously a different technology?</li> <li>What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on aligning all of your development on a single language?</li> <li>When is Python the wrong choice?</li> <li>What do you have planned for the future of engineering practices at Ascend?</li> </ul> <h2>Keep In Touch</h2> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanknapp/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" rel="noopener" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/seanknapp?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" rel="noopener" target="_blank">@seanknapp</a> on Twitter</li> </ul> <h2>Picks</h2> <ul> <li>Tobias <ul> <li><a href="https://www.delverlab.com/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Delver Lens</a> app for scanning <a href="https://magic.wizards.com/en?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Magic: The Gathering</a> cards</li> </ul> </li> <li>Sean <ul> <li><a href="https://typer.tiangolo.com/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Typer</a></li> <li><a href="https://duckdb.org/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" rel="noopener" target="_blank">DuckDB</a></li> <li><a href="https://amzn.to/3qAacCe?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Amp It Up</a> book (affiliate link)</li> </ul> </li> </ul> <h2>Closing Announcements</h2> <ul> <li>Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to check out our other shows. The <a href="https://www.dataengineeringpodcast.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Data Engineering Podcast</a> covers the latest on modern data management. The <a href="https://www.themachinelearningpodcast.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Machine Learning Podcast</a> helps you go from idea to production with machine learning.</li> <li>Visit the <a href="https://www.pythonpodcast.com?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss">site</a> to subscribe to the show, sign up for the mailing list, and read the show notes.</li> <li>If you’ve learned something or tried out a project from the show then tell us about it! 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